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Title: Tenina's bread rolls
Post by: maddy on April 04, 2010, 09:29:10 am
I made these for lunch today, and they were lovely.
A sweeter bread, and I liked the taste from  using the buttermilk.
Recipe from Tenina's blog, at   http://tenina.com/2009/11/the-best-rolls-ever-just-ask-my-niece/


Tenina’s  bread rolls


NEED:

2tsp dry yeast
55g water
70g sugar
55g butter
1tsp salt
220g buttermilk or milk
1 egg
680g bakers flour
Melted butter to brush rolls

DO:

Place yeast, water, sugar, butter, salt and milk into Thermomix bowl and warm for 2 minutes at 37ºC on speed 2.
Add egg and flour and mix for 10 seconds on speed 6.
With dial set to closed lid position, knead for 2 minutes on Interval speed.
Turn out onto floured ThermoMat and bring dough together into tight ball. Wrap and prove until doubled.
Form into rolls and place on paper lined tray. Brush with melted butter and allow to double again before baking in 200ºC oven for 12-15 minutes or until lightly golden. (I baked mine for 18 minutes, as I made them larger).

Serve warm.

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Thanks  Tenina   :D

Title: Re: Tenina's bread rolls
Post by: brazen20au on April 04, 2010, 09:37:40 am
they look gorgeous!!!

if you don't mind, a link to the original recipe would be great :)
Title: Re: Tenina's bread rolls
Post by: maddy on April 04, 2010, 10:09:25 am
they look gorgeous!!!

if you don't mind, a link to the original recipe would be great :)

Done  ;)
Title: Re: Tenina's bread rolls
Post by: brazen20au on April 04, 2010, 10:37:26 am
brilliant, thanks maddy!
Title: Re: Tenina's bread rolls
Post by: JulieO on April 04, 2010, 10:38:43 am
They look wonderful, I must try these.  :)
Title: Re: Tenina's bread rolls
Post by: judydawn on April 04, 2010, 01:37:54 pm
Me too but I bet I can't put that twist on mine  :-)) :-))   How many of the larger size does this make Maddy?
Title: Re: Tenina's bread rolls
Post by: maddy on April 05, 2010, 12:47:26 am
I made 8 large ones.
I think the recipe was designed for smaller dinner roll size, but this  recipe worked fine making them larger (I just lengthened the cooking time).
Judy, I just rolled each bun into a sausage shape, tied  it into a knot, then tucked one end into centre of knot and other end under.  Alternatively tuck both ends into the centre, and you will get a rosette shape roll.
That's the great part about making your own......turn them into whatever shape you like  ;)
Title: Re: Tenina's bread rolls
Post by: judydawn on April 05, 2010, 12:57:52 am
Thanks Maddy, will have a go at that method with my next batch of rolls.
Title: Re: Tenina's bread rolls
Post by: achookwoman on April 05, 2010, 02:24:29 am
Maddy,  love the way you formed these rolls.   My 'snails'  look pretty ordinary compared to these.
Title: Re: Tenina's bread rolls
Post by: Tebasile on April 05, 2010, 03:34:12 am
Wow!!! Your rolls look beautiful Maddy  :) I use this technique (http://www.preparedpantry.com/howtomakekaiserrollsprintable.htm):

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Title: Re: Tenina's bread rolls
Post by: judydawn on April 05, 2010, 04:52:08 am
Brilliant Tebasile, thanks for the instructions.  Pictures make it so easy to follow too.  You girls never cease to amaze me with your talent and versatility when it comes to making bread/rolls.  It has to rub off on all of us and I thank you all for the tips and hints to impress our guests or even DH's & kids.  :-* :-*
Title: Re: Tenina's bread rolls
Post by: cookie1 on April 05, 2010, 07:59:32 am
I've made these several times and Tenina's niece is definitely correct. They are delicious.
Title: Re: Tenina's bread rolls
Post by: Thermomixer on April 06, 2010, 03:01:35 am
Thanks Maddy they really do look good.
Title: Re: Tenina's bread rolls
Post by: Russell on April 07, 2010, 11:21:31 pm
These look good. How would they go for the kids school lunch sandwiches instead of cutting up loaves of bread? Always a pain trying to get the right sandwich sizes cut.

Russell.
Title: Re: Tenina's bread rolls
Post by: cookie1 on April 08, 2010, 06:31:45 am
I think they'd be fine Russell. Just make them to the size you want.
Title: Re: Tenina's bread rolls
Post by: judydawn on April 09, 2010, 09:27:02 am
Made 16 largish dinner rolls, definitely a different taste to the other rolls I have made.  I cut the sugar down to 50g but it could go even lower than that I think and added 2 tspns bread improver like I do to everything these days. Did 3 different shapes which was fun. Nice dough to work with. Because of the cooler weather now, I proved the dough in a 50oC oven for both risings (just covered with a teatowel) and they were perfect.  Thanks Tenina and Maddy for posting the recipe on the forum.
Title: Re: Tenina's bread rolls
Post by: maddy on April 09, 2010, 12:41:41 pm
Judy, I was thinking of dropping the sugar amount again too.
How much do you think you will put in the next lot?  Less sugar wouldn't effect the texture, just the taste?

Also on the dough rising, I filled the sink about 1/3 with hot water, sat the plastic bowl (covered in gladwrap) in the water, and it did rise quickly too.
Title: Re: Tenina's bread rolls
Post by: judydawn on April 09, 2010, 12:48:11 pm
I'm going to try 20g but I really can't see the point of the sugar at all maddy - anyone know why there needs to be so much?  I remember years ago the hue and cry when it was discovered how many teaspoons of sugar was in a hamburger bun from one or other of those 2 big hamburger places.
Title: Re: Tenina's bread rolls
Post by: CreamPuff63 on April 09, 2010, 04:17:30 pm
JD can you look on your container to see if any preservatives or additives are in the bread improver?
Title: Re: Tenina's bread rolls
Post by: JulieO on April 10, 2010, 09:58:41 am
Err I made these rolls today and I think I must have done something wrong as everyone else seems to think they are really good.
I found them to be quite dry.  I got 15 out of my lot.  I would like to give them another shot and add improver as I think that really helps to soften.  Sorry, but going on this batch they didn't really impress to be honest, but will update if my next attempt is more favourable.  :)

I did reduce the sugar to 20g too and they seemed sweet enough, also I used full cream milk not buttermilk.

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Title: Re: Tenina's bread rolls
Post by: judydawn on April 11, 2010, 12:42:58 pm
They look nice enough JulieO.  Somehow I think I do prefer the UK forum ones (olive oil rolls) when you want a softer roll and then of course isi's crunchy ones are great too.

CP63 the ingredients in the Wallaby Bread Improver are - wheat flour, soya flour, emulsifier (480), ascorbic acid, mineral salt (516), enzyme.   Anything there that is a problem?

Title: Re: Tenina's bread rolls
Post by: Thermomixer on April 11, 2010, 01:34:29 pm
As JD said -they look the goods.  Wait for another batch - if you're game.
Title: Re: Tenina's bread rolls
Post by: JulieO on April 11, 2010, 11:59:18 pm
Thanks Judy and Thermomixer, I'm wondering if anyone else felt that they were a bit dry or whether it was just my lot. They looked really good, but like Judy I too prefer the olive oil/Isi rolls.

It's good to try new recipes though.  :)
Title: Re: Tenina's bread rolls
Post by: maddy on April 12, 2010, 02:00:34 am
Thanks Judy and Thermomixer, I'm wondering if anyone else felt that they were a bit dry or whether it was just my lot. They looked really good, but like Judy I too prefer the olive oil/Isi rolls.

It's good to try new recipes though.  :)

Had a thought Julie......I make 8 large rolls with this mix.....I haven't made the smaller dinner roll size.  Do you thing maybe being larger, with the same cooking time as the small size rolls, this could effect them in being drier?
Title: Re: Tenina's bread rolls
Post by: JulieO on April 12, 2010, 02:18:19 am


Maddy - good to see you back, I thought we'd lost you there for a minute.   ;)


Had a thought Julie......I make 8 large rolls with this mix.....I haven't made the smaller dinner roll size.  Do you thing maybe being larger, with the same cooking time as the small size rolls, this could effect them in being drier?

That  is quite a possibility.  Maybe before writing the recipe off I should try bigger rolls just to see if it makes any difference, because obviously yours weren't dry?

Thanks maddy.  :)

Title: Re: Tenina's bread rolls
Post by: Russell on April 12, 2010, 02:26:46 am
I'm going to try 20g but I really can't see the point of the sugar at all maddy - anyone know why there needs to be so much? 

I may be mistaken, but isn't sugar the food that Yeast feeds on? That would mean that if you reduce it too much, you'll probably lose some of your "rise".

As for the bread improver, it looks OK from the FAILSAFE diet point of view, although not sure what "enzyme" may effect. For me though, I try to steer clear of anything containing "soy" just because of the years of articles I've read about the effects of GMO'ing it. I know it's been a lifesaver for many dairy intollerent people though, so everyone has to make up theri own mind on that one.

Russell.
Title: Re: Tenina's bread rolls
Post by: maddy on April 12, 2010, 02:49:01 am


CP63 the ingredients in the Wallaby Bread Improver are - wheat flour, soya flour, emulsifier (480), ascorbic acid, mineral salt (516), enzyme.   Anything there that is a problem?


I have just bought the Simply No Knead improver

Ingredients

Non genetically modified soy flour
bakers flour
ascorbic acid
enzyme (amylase)





Maddy - good to see you back, I thought we'd lost you there for a minute.   ;)


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Title: Re: Tenina's bread rolls
Post by: Russell on April 12, 2010, 03:11:33 am

I have just bought the Simply No Knead improver

Ingredients

Non genetically modified soy flour
bakers flour
ascorbic acid
enzyme (amylase)


Ahh Ok now I understand how it works.

Amylase breaks starch down into sugars, and the sugars feed the yeast. Ascorbic acid also helps the yeast work by creating a slightly acidic environment and helping preserve the bread. We bought plain ascorbic acid as a bread improver. I guess with the Amylase as well, it would work better.

Russell.
Title: Re: Tenina's bread rolls
Post by: maddy on April 12, 2010, 03:22:43 am
Glad you knew about it Russell......I was clueless  ;)
Title: Re: Tenina's bread rolls
Post by: judydawn on April 12, 2010, 07:27:23 am
JulieO, my rolls weren't dry, they turned out really well but it was the sweetness that I wasn't keen on which is why I prefer the olive oil roll recipe instead. 
Title: Re: Tenina's bread rolls
Post by: cookie1 on April 12, 2010, 08:30:19 am
A question from Cookie1Dumbo. Where do you buy your bread improver please? I usually freeze leftovers but I think bread improver may help there.
Title: Re: Tenina's bread rolls
Post by: maddy on April 12, 2010, 08:49:54 am
Cookie, I buy the simply no knead one at the health food store, or alternatively you can purchase online at their website at www.snk.com.au/html/s01_home/home.asp  or possibly in the supermarket where the flours are.
Title: Re: Tenina's bread rolls
Post by: judydawn on April 12, 2010, 09:38:57 am
Or the Wallaby brand at the supermarket, right next to the dried yeast Cookie.
Title: Re: Tenina's bread rolls
Post by: Amanda on April 12, 2010, 09:57:12 am
Re the sugar in these rolls - if the original recipe was from the US that may explain it.
I have found that our American cousins like their bread a lot sweeter than ours.
You really only need a small amount to feed the yeast.
Title: Re: Tenina's bread rolls
Post by: JulieO on April 12, 2010, 12:10:24 pm
Thanks Judy, I'll just put it down to one of those things.  I did find even with 20g sugar that I could taste it and wouldn't have wanted them to be any sweeter.  I'll try them again at some stage but make them bigger and see what happens then.  ???