Thermomix vs Bread machine

[Paul]

I certainly agree that Coles and Woolworths stock very little fresh or unprocessed ingredients.

With regard to the industrialisation of the bread-making process I would have to agree with that also. I guess the question is how far do you go?  Many dietitians and nutritionists throughout the world argue that the seven day fermentation process used by Ethiopians in the preparation of injera bread is the only way in which humans should prepare and consume grain (which was not part of our evolutionary diet).  Unless there is some fermentation (and pre-digestion) of grain we are not able to gain valuable nutrients from it anyway.  During our travels through Ethiopia we have learned how to make injera (a teff-based pancake bread that is the basis of the Ethiopian diet) and the process hasn't changed in thousands of years. Ultimately I guess it depends on which theory you subscribe to and what you are actually able to do.  My teff supply has run out from our last trip to Ethiopia and I'm not able to import it so I am back to normal bread (in limited quantities- particularly for our Oziopian son). 

That is very interesting Chelsea.  I sometimes wonder if gluten enteropathy arises from modern fermentation processes.  Personally, as well as tasting better, bread that has risen at least twice is easier to digest.

Up here in Cairns, a lot of fresh produce is grown on the Atherton tablelands.  It gets sent to Brisbane or Townsville, and then gets sent back here to the supermarkets because in the words of some head honcho from Woolies "Supermarkets don't know how to handle fresh food".  How bad is that?  In the UK, the better supermarkets were proudly advertising local produce - fresh food all from within 50km.  We're just too accepting over here, and most people don't know how to cook and they eat processed food.

[Thermomixer]

....  If anyone has the chance to read "English Breast and Yeast Cookery" by Elizabeth David, you can read all about the downhill process of ......

Paul, if I didn't know you better then I would be thinking you have more than Bread on your mind !!

Still haven't bought Breast and Yeast Cookery, but believe there is a copy at the Books for Cooks store in Fitzroy.  Have to check it out.  Is there a centre spread ?   Hopefully it's butter! 

Can't believe that they are so far behind with the pros and cons of butter and marg !! 

We are lucky, there are market gardens nearby so often the supermarket will have bins of very fresh produce - often with mud still on it.  The local greengrocer's produce often looks very much inferior.  We still can't grow enough - my broad beans were hopeless.  Sorry, off on a tangent.

Back to poor Huilink, who is doing the right thing and converting from Bread Machine to TMX bread.  Yes, a few minutes is ample.

[Paul]

....  If anyone has the chance to read "English Breast and Yeast Cookery" by Elizabeth David, you can read all about the downhill process of ......

Paul, if I didn't know you better then I would be thinking you have more than Bread on your mind !!

Still haven't bought Breast and Yeast Cookery, but believe there is a copy at the Books for Cooks store in Fitzroy.  Have to check it out.  Is there a centre spread ?   Hopefully it's butter! 

Can't believe that they are so far behind with the pros and cons of butter and marg !! 

We are lucky, there are market gardens nearby so often the supermarket will have bins of very fresh produce - often with mud still on it.  The local greengrocer's produce often looks very much inferior.  We still can't grow enough - my broad beans were hopeless.  Sorry, off on a tangent.

Back to poor Huilink, who is doing the right thing and converting from Bread Machine to TMX bread.  Yes, a few minutes is ample.

Oops.  That'll teach me to check everything.  We have Rusty's markets here in Cairns, which are great, but Qld is not big on greengrocers.

[Ceejay]

We have Rusty's markets here in Cairns, which are great, but Qld is not big on greengrocers.
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Gosh Rusty's is still going??  I remember going to the market at 6am on the morning of my wedding (19 yrs ago) to stock up on fruit (we were married at 8:30am in the Botanical Gardens) as well as my grandparents going there for most of my childhood!  Been about 6 years since I visited my parents.. and it was the lack of greengrocers there that was the problem! 

[Paul]

We have Rusty's markets here in Cairns, which are great, but Qld is not big on greengrocers.

Gosh Rusty's is still going??  I remember going to the market at 6am on the morning of my wedding (19 yrs ago) to stock up on fruit (we were married at 8:30am in the Botanical Gardens) as well as my grandparents going there for most of my childhood!  Been about 6 years since I visited my parents.. and it was the lack of greengrocers there that was the problem! 
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Hi Ceejay, still there, different premises.  There's a greengrocer of sorts at Festy Fair (now called Raintrees) an the only real one is Edge Hill.  Not like Melbourne where ever shop strip and mall has several.  Thank goodness for Rusty's.  The other towns up the Qld coast don't have anything, I think

[gertbysea]

Too true Paul. There is a Green Grocer outside Woollies at Smithfield who is trying hard to get lots of fresh fruit and veggies from the Tablelands. Very keen prices.  I find some of the things at Rustys just don't last well as they set it up on Thursday but you can't buy until Friday. In the heat it is not a good thing. Also they spray the herbs constantly with warm water. Edge Hill is the best but excy.


Gretchen

[Paul]

You are right Gert, I don't often go to Smithfield but that is a good shop with local produce.