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[Kenko]

 

Hello everyone, I'm a new thermomix lover in Sydney, Mum of 4 kids.
I'm always thinking of what to cook, driving me crazy but it's so much fun with Thermomix!

I have a question regarding making BREAD!
her it is, i just moved the question from bread recipe section.


I've made nice bread so far - just simple ones in the cookbook.- my favourite is 5 seeds bread - not for kids..,,.
Thanks to Mr. TMX. It’s so easy and I love making bread now.

And it’s time for me to explore,
please help me solve/clarify regarding bread making.

My family likes wholegrain (reasonable-about 50% ) bread,
want to make it with less yeast (additive) as i can,
I also like the idea of soaking wholegrain (might be easier for little ones to digest).

Then I found this thread by Ms. Jabba
Slow Ferment, Low Yeast, Oat Bread Variation - sounds great!
http://www.forumthermomix.com/index.php?topic=4575.0

now, please correct me if I didn't get the instruction right,  (English is not my first language.....)

1, so the actual wheat flour soaking has to start the night before, then put the rest and knead in the morning.-right?
2, then after kneading, is it ok to leave dough in the TMX bowl for another 12-16 hours - would be easier. (have to time right, though....)
3, and if ok to leave the dough in the bowl, is this with normal room temperature? (summer and winter?) or safer in the fridge? Or take it out of the bowl and let it rise?
4, then knead again, take it out to rest for another 2-4 hours and bake
it's a long process but once get used to it, it should work for us.,,,,,, please help!


I also tried BAKE in Bread machine after kneading dough in TMX.
simply because i have 4 kids in/out of the kitchen/house and dont always have time to watch my dough rise and  in out in oven, out again,, also my bread machine is brad new, only bought a few months before TMX....
 
i used the shortest 2hour cycle and worked beautifully!
if anyone has tried this let me know if there's better way or choosing the right cycle..

thank you very much!

[CreamPuff63]

ask here Kenko, or under another Chit Chat thread about bread. The Bread section is for recipes.

[Carine]

Welcome Kenko    Happy bread-making- sooo easy with TMX!

[fundj&e]

 Welcome Kenko  sorry can’t help you, but someone will soon 

[judydawn]

Hi Kenko, welcome to the forum.  Sorry, I am no bread expert so will leave it to those who know more. Glad you could join us and here's hoping someone can put you on the right track with your bread making.

[cookie1]

Have a look at this recipe Kenko and see if it answers any of your questions. It makes a lovely bread. Chookie is our resident bread expert.

[achookwoman]

Cookie,  don't think I deserve this title,  however may be able to help.
Kenko,  you are well on the way,  and your questions are good.  To reduce the yeast,  the recipe that Cookie suggests is the way to go.  Start by making it as directed and then you can substitute some of the ingredients.  When I use whole grain,  I soak the grain over night and then just add it as part of the mix.  Chelsea is far better informed about making bread from soaked grain that I am. 
Bread machine... What brand machine do you have.?  They are all a bit different.  Most people use their machine to knead the dough and then form it into what they want.  I would do what you are doing and use the shortest cycle,  but then this will knead it again,  unless you have just a Bake .Hope this helps.

[Kenko]

Wow,
 thanks for your reply and welcome messages!
babies are gone to bed, I'm finally sitting at my pc....

and Yes,
thanks for the link to Beautiful Rustic Bread!  I will time it and will try this with 1/2 quantity very soon.
just the matter of time.....

and thank you, it does answer ALMOST all of my questions i had.

so for this recipe,

1, basically soaking doesn't mean just soak grains/seeds,
soaking after making the first mix, - I got it

2, no soaking for the wholewheat??
I read somewhere about 'soaking-to-rid-whole-wheat-of-phytic-acid' technique...
 
3, and obviously grind wholegrain before the night before making the first soaking dough. hahaha
i'm getting crossed eyes....

Thank you, Thank you , thank you for all your help, Good night!