What are the ethics?

[Buttercups]

Wanting to get thoughts\opinons.  I'd really love to know what you think

I really want to get the full-steam ahead cookbook however it seems I have to have a demo.

There's a part of me that is annoyed that after spending thousands I'm expected to have a demo - and to what purpose for thermomix to try to sell to my friends\family a machine that they've made clear they aren't interested in. All for me to get a book that will give me some recipes to get full use of the machine.

My quandary is this, my demonstrator is lovely and helpful. My family\friends are not interested\not going to buy a thermomix.  My initional demonstration was interesting only to me and not to friends\family. Unfortunately I invited more than the minimum group - I should have saved some up for subsequent demos

How wrong is it to have a demonstration, knowing that I'm wasting a lovely persons time\money for the sole purpose of me being able to buy a book, especially seeing that my friends\family would mostly ignore her.   

I find it goes against what I feel is right, I'm thinking of asking head office to assign me someone awful so I won't feel bad about wasting their time. Or do I suck it up and have a waste-of-time demo?

[*suzanne*]

Hi Buttercups

It is a pain when you want something as simple as  a cook book and you need to have an entire evening/afternoon free just to get one, are you able to buy them if you go to a demo? or do you have to hold the demo because if you can buy one from another persons demo ask your consultant to buy one at the next one she does, otherwise I have no ideas sorry

[CreamPuff63]

Buttercups the book is not worth worrying about in my opinion. There are far better recipes on this forum and available free online. Go to "Recipe book Reviews" and there is the list of contents and see whether you think you will benefit. There are other books available that for your money will be better spent.

[Buttercups]

Hi Suzanne,  that's a good idea to ask her to get it if she's doing another demo somewhere.

Hi CreamPuff, thanks for the review it sounds good. The problem is I've never used the varoma and really not sure about it. I figured some tried and true recipes would help me to become more confident. I'll definitely browse the forum again and pick some things to try.  Bonus of the forum is that if I get stuck I'm sure someone will have some great advice 

I could buy the book on ebay for $80 now or join a bidding war, which doesn't attract me at all.

Maybe I should buy a full set of all the books, pick my favourite recipes and then on-sell the books on ebay, the way some of the prices are going I could make a fortune 

I'm just too lazy to bother though 

[fundj&e]

i agree with CP

[fundj&e]

Buttercups i have emailed  you the recipe cards that you get when u have a varoma demo

[Buttercups]

Thank you Fundj, I really appreciate that 

I'm determned to master the Varoma!!!

[obbie]

Buttercup, it took me 18 months to have a varoma demo, and I just taught myself.

It is bad that  you have to have another demo, just for a book. That is HO model for their business, to get more referrals.

[*suzanne*]

I was a bit nervous about using the varoma at first too but now use it quite a lot, this forum makes everything seem so easy plus I only  invited 3 people to my initial demo and they either already have a tmx or a tc and I told my demonstrator this beforehand so she didn't need to try and 'sell' it if you you know what I mean 

[judydawn]

Buttercup, we can all understand your quandary and I agree with the others - the book really is not necessary to have in your collection.  There are quite a few recipes from that book posted on this forum in the early days by Thermomixer - if I get time I will make a list of them and send the links to you.  He translated them from the Italian copy of the book.

To use your varoma, you only need to follow a recipe and in our All-in-One Meal section you will find lots of recipes.  There are a few pizza recipes up the top of that section right now but beneath them you will find so many recipes using the varoma - that is what an all in one recipe is all about.  Have a bit of a browse and you will see what I mean.

I thought Obbie had one of the Full Steam Ahead cookbooks she wanted to sell - if you still wanted to go ahead and buy one perhaps you could contact her.

[faffa_70]

Buttercups have a look at the "All in one" thread ... you will find many successful meals there using your varoma to get you started and then you won't look back.

Baf's chicken and veg is always a winner!!!

[faffa_70]

Great minds JD 

[Buttercups]

Thank you ladies, I really appreciate the suggestions and Obbie has contacted me which is really nice.

You are all so lovely - thank you.

I will check out the all-in-one meals, I've not used the varoma yet and it's been close to a year - I'm feeling a bit nervous, I think I'll just have to jump in and try it - after all every fail teaches me something to not do next time 

I was feeling bad about the thought of wasting my demonstrators time so it's nice to have you all to fall back on!  Maybe I'll have to try a desert, if it doesn't work out I can always make it into a trifle 

[Delightful Den]

Buttercups I can't ever remember making a single recipe from the Full Steam Ahead book. To be honest I rarely use most of the TM books. I am more likely to use recipes from here or from one of Tenina's books.

[achookwoman]

Buttercups,  don't buy it.  There are plenty of general books about using steamers.  Use the info here and ask for help until you get going.  It really is very easy.  If you live close to me I would be prepared to give you a hand. I am in Victoria,  You can PM me if local.