Kneading Issues

[mi]

Hello! This is my first post at this forum. I am trying to use the knead function except it always seems to cut the dough instead of kneading it into a ball. I have tried adding water to moisten the dough but it doesnt seem to work. I have also tried to knead the dough into a ball first then place it back into the thermomix for further kneading but it still cuts the dough.

Can anyone please tell me what is wrong? Any suggestions appreciated!!

Thanks!!

[Halex]

What do you have the dial set too?

[CreamPuff63]

There are 2 things you need to do before you can knead:

1. Turn the dial to:  (Closed jug position which is next to  )
2. Press 

[cookie1]

Welcome to the forum Mi. The dough in the thermomix doesn't actually get kneaded into a nice smooth ball at all. If you set the dial to closed lid and press  as CP has suggested it should knead your dough. It will automatically knead one way and then reverse itself and go the other way. This continues as long as the machine is going.  At no time does the dough become a ball, however it is being kneaded. I suggest that you let the machine knead for the required time and then check your dough for elasticity.  If you know how to do the window pane test on the dough, do it.. It should be kneaded for you.

[mi]

thanks for your help cookie1, cream puff63 and halex!
I do turn the dial to  then set the time and press the 

the video on kneading posted http://www.thermomix.com.au/what-is-thermomix/functions.aspx seems to suggest the dough should cling together, however, mine ends up in a thousand little balls of dough (aka crumbs). So that is normal as well? (perhaps depends on the dough?)

THANKS!! 

[gertbysea]

Mi what speed are you using?

Gert

[Halex]

Are you kneading it long enough?

How long have you had your blades?

[mi]

Hi Gert - I dont set a speed, I just set the dial to  then press 

Hi Halex - I kneaded it for 2 mins, the longer it kneads the more crumbs!!

Cheers
Mi

[deedub]

Which recipe are you using mi?

[judydawn]

Hi mi, welcome to the forum.  It just doesn't sound right to me so once we know which recipe you are trying, perhaps we can help but if not, have you spoken to your consultant ? Perhaps she could come over and work through this with you.  Most recipes I do knead for 4 minutes but you said longer kneading is an even worse result.

[Halex]

When my blades wre blunt I was getting crumbs.

[gertbysea]

Yup we need to know what recipe you are using so we can try it.

Gert

[cookie1]

I think you may need a little more water. Just sprinkle some on the dough and see if it comes together. If not try another sprinkle.
Chookie's No Fuss Rolls on here are perfectly balanced for water etc. perhaps you could try them. You can make it into a loaf or whatever you would like.

http://www.forumthermomix.com/index.php?topic=4253.0

[gertbysea]

Ml if you can't make  chookies no fuss rolls then something is wrong. This is an absolute no fail recipe.

Gert

[Bonsai]

I suspect a drop more water is needed. If it turns into little balls you can add water and knead again or pour it out on to a mat or bench top and knead by hand. It often comes together well quite quickly.