Mab, what size pie maker did you use. .? The mini one would make 8 from 1/2 No Fuss recipe and the larger one 6 rolls. It is best to have a wet rather than stiff dough. Double rise gives a better texture. Playing around today, I tried both pie makers. The mini ones turned out rather strange as they looked like little pies. They tasted ok. They costed out at just over 10 cents each.