Dan Lapard. All recipes are to be removed,

[achookwoman]

David Whitehouse,  Dan Lepard's publisher has requested that I remove all of Dan's recipes from the Forum and from my Blog.  I will attempt to do this today.  I understand that I can leave the photos and reference to where the recipes came from.  Chookie

[LeeJ]

Oh, I suppose it's every publisher's right to do that, won't bother checking his recipes out now though 

[judydawn]

Buggar, I wanted to try this one too Chookie.

[achookwoman]

I will continue to use his recipes and post what I think about them.  Just can't print the recipes.  Shame as it has been such good publicity for such great books. 

[Halex]

Thats a real shame, I didnt manage to do his cookies.

H

[andiesenji]

Well, that's it for me.  I had put his book "Handmade Bread" in my Amazon cart, intending to send it to my daughter for her birthday but this attitude is rather insulting.  I've removed the book and will send her something else. 

Sad to think that the publication of a few representative recipes can bring this kind of reaction.  If anything, publication of recipes I could try would make me more likely to purchase the cookbooks. 

Considering that Peter Reinhart has no problem with people passing on some of his recipes (and he has a lot of books out) on forums such as the Bread-Baker's Digest, because he knows that this actually sells books.  (I have all of his books.)

[Halex]

I agree Andie, i would try a few recipes & if loved them would buy the book.

I think the publisher is being petty,  in fact he is doing the company out of sales. Just look at us all,  few people purchase something, rave about it, then a load of us buy it.

E.g
Dinner spiners, QFITM, For Foods Sake, ice cream makers, vacuum sealers

I have all of these and without this forum I woud have none of these.

H

[achookwoman]

Yes ,  he has every right to ask me to remove the recipes.  Most of the recipes were actually changed to meet the needs of the TMX process.  It is a shame though,  as it has been good publicity for his books.  Not much generosity of spirit that is so much in evidence on the Forum and as  Andi points out,  with other authors.

[Katiej]

Chookie that's a shame and I agree it has been great publicity for his books. 
I'd never heard of him before, but I purchased his book on the back of your comments and conversions.

I won't be buying another of his books again though

[cookie1]

Gosh, you have been such a great advertisement for him. I have bought 2 of his books after learning about him. Credit has always been given to him too. How very upsetting. I will remove his cookies from here and any others.
I think he has made quite a few sales from being advertised on this forum. I guess he is within his rights so goodbye recipes.

[Amanda]

Chookie, I received a similar email from David Whitehouse this morning and believe that in some cases it is bluff.
I have checked with a solicitor specialising in copyright and clarified a few issues.
There is NO COPYRIGHT ON A SIMPLE LIST OF INGREDIENTS.
If the method is modified or converted (as is my conversion for Sweet Potato Brownies) then this does not infringe copyright.
If the original author is acknowledged and the original source is linked back to then it is not plagiarism.
Plagiarism is the passing of of anothers work as your own.

Whitehouse has been urging many bloggers to take down copies of Lepard's recipes, but I question his justification in some instances.  He is also doing the Dan Lepard brand no favours at all with such a heavy handed approach.

[cookie1]

It's a pity Dan L can't be contacted to see what his opinion is.

[Amanda]

It's a pity Dan L can't be contacted to see what his opinion is.

I'd be surprised if he didn't know this is happening.  Don't know this for a fact, but I have been told that Whitehouse is actually Lepards partner/spouse.

[cookie1]

I'm sure he does then. How sad to give up all that publicity over the other side of the world.

[snappy]

Chookie, I received a similar email from David Whitehouse this morning and believe that in some cases it is bluff.
I have checked with a solicitor specialising in copyright and clarified a few issues.
There is NO COPYRIGHT ON A SIMPLE LIST OF INGREDIENTS.
If the method is modified or converted (as is my conversion for Sweet Potato Brownies) then this does not infringe copyright.
If the original author is acknowledged and the original source is linked back to then it is not plagiarism.
Plagiarism is the passing of of anothers work as your own.

Whitehouse has been urging many bloggers to take down copies of Lepard's recipes, but I question his justification in some instances.  He is also doing the Dan Lepard brand no favours at all with such a heavy handed approach.

I'm so sad to hear that.  I was going to get the short and sweet book too because of Cookies and others on this forums recommendation but I won't be doing that now.

My understanding of copyright was similar to what Amanda posted.  If you have changed the method (eg converted for thermomix) then it is not technically covered by his copyright - but I am no lawyer!  This has completely changed my opinion of Dan Lepard