Cooking legumes

[Burgerb]

Hi, I would love to start replacing tinned chickpeas, kidney beans and Cannelloni beans with ones I've cooked myself. Any suggestions of soaking & cooking times would be greatly appreciated, and whether people use tmx or stove top? TIA

[Cornish Cream]

The TMX cookbook A Taste of Vegetarian has a comprehensive chart for soaking and cooking times in the TM, on page 5&6.
Recently cooked soaked chickpeas for 50 minutes in the TM with great success.

[judydawn]

If you don't have the book Burgerb, we can type up a list for you if you want.

[fundj&e]

The TMX cookbook A Taste of Vegetarian has a comprehensive chart for soaking and cooking times in the TM, on page 5&6.
Recently cooked soaked chickpeas for 50 minutes in the TM with great success.

CC.what temp did you use ?. thanks 

[Cornish Cream]

Uni I soaked the chickpeas overnight then put them in the TM bowl added water then cooked them 50 minutes @90c Reverse Speed 1.
It does say in the book " it is preferable to use the basket for the recommended time @90c on speed 2-3 to cook pulses.Ensure water is placed in the bowl.If you are cooking a larger amount cook directly in the TM bowl @90c on reverse speed 1.If cooking longer than 35 minutes,check the water and add if required"

[fundj&e]

thanks CC how many cups of c/peas do you soak ?

[Cornish Cream]

thanks CC how many cups of c/peas do you soak ?

I soaked about 320g.My bowl was quite full when cooking them.I did get a bit of scum as well ,so that got skimmed off
The chart in the book says that 200g yields 300g when cooked.

[Cuilidh]

Burgerb - have you cooked dried legumes / beans before?  One thing to do is to make sure you rinse the dried beans / legumes thoroughly before soaking them, otherwise you and or your family may experience unwelcome flatulence.  Make sure you rinse them well in several changes of water (keep an eye open for small twigs, stones, etc. at this time as well).

It is best to rinse and soak the larger beans overnight then rinse them once more before cooking.  If you've got a pressure cooker they are much quicker to do in that, but stove top is just as good, although slower.  I have never cooked mine in the TMX so cannot give you times, but it looks like you'll get the answer to this from other forum members.

Red lentils only need a good rinse with no pre-soaking.  The larger lentils need rinsing but perhaps only a couple of hours pre-soaking.

I have been told, although I have never used this, that if you cook some kombi with the beans this will help to prevent flatulence, but make sure you remove the kombi once the beans are cooked - before you carry on and make your meal.  Don't use the kombi if it is likely to get damaged or shredded, unless you really like the taste of seaweed with your beans!

[fundj&e]

thanks CC  . will soak some now, and cook them at 4pm

[Vivaroo]

I only use the stove top, it's easier to check the beans, quieter and I would be using the TMX for something else.  I put 1 cup of required legume in a bowl to soak before heading off to work, I don't even plan what I'm going to cook just grab whatever, then spend the whole day thinking about what I'm going to cook and if I need to purchase any extras on the way home.  It's also a commitment thing, once it's on the soak I've committed to not buying takeaway that night!

Here's a link to cooking times.  Use fresh water not the soaking water, bring to boil then simmer for around 45 mins then check, larger beans will take 1-1.5hrs but I still check sooner.  I put a bay leave in the cooking water sometimes.  I soak split peas too even though most charts say not necessary, I also soak brown rice makes it cook quicker, and basmati rice - try soaking that for 30mins-1hr and see the difference in texture.

And the body gets used to eating more legumes, might be very gassy at first but if the beans are correctly prepared and cooked things will improve and your body will thank you for the healthy food.  Or blame it on the dog/children/stranger standing nearby.

[Burgerb]

If you don't have the book Burgerb, we can type up a list for you if you want.

Judy, that would be fantastic! You are so generous with your time around here! I was going to soak and follow Jude Blereau directions. I guess I need to just 'play' and sort out which is easiest and yields better results - tmx or stove top? I like the idea f cooking ahead and having some also on standby in the freezer to make a quick dip or dinner.  My first attempt is going to be adzuki beans to make baked beans, putting them in to soak this evening.
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[judydawn]

Legumes cooking times from A Taste of Vegetarian.  It is preferable to use the basket for the recommended time at 90^oC on speed 2-3 to cook pulses.  Ensure water is placed in the bowl.  If you are cooking a larger amount, cook directly in the TM bowl at 90^oC on reverse + speed 1.  If cooking longer than 35 mins, check the water and add if required.

Bean                                      Soaking Time                 Prep & Cooking Time                       Quantities  

Adzuki                                       2-3 hours                          40-50 minutes                      200g yields 410g
                                                                                                                                  when cooked

Black eyed peas                          2-3 hours                          60-70 minutes                     180g yields 380g
                                                                                                                                  when cooked

Borlotti beans                             Soak overnight                  40-45 minutes                      160g yields 340g
                                                                                                                                  when cooked

Cannellini beans                          2-3 hours                         40-45 minutes                      180g yields 400g
                                                                                                                                  when cooked

Chickpeas                                   Soak overnight                  40-50 mins if you split          200g yields 300g
                                                 in 3 x volume                     the chickpeas in the TM       when cooked
                                                 water                                before soaking, the
                                                                                         cooking time will be
                                                                                         halved.

Brown lentils                              Rinse & remove                   30-35 minutes                    200g yields 300g
                                                stones and grit.                                                            when cooked

Haricot beans                             Soak for 2-3 hrs                  50-60 minutes                    180g yields 420g
                                                                                                                                  when cooked

Lima beans                                Soak for 4-6 hrs                  50-60 minutes                     200g yields 360g
                                                                                                                                   when cooked

Mung beans                              Rinse beans                        15-20 minutes                      210g yields 480g
                                                                                                                                  when cooked

Pea (blue boiler,                        Soak in 3 x volume               30-40 minutes                     200g yields 400g
                                               water                                                                           when cooked

Pinto bean                                Soak overnight                    60-70 minutes                     180g yields 380g
                                                                                                                                  when cooked

Red kidney bean                       Soak overnight                    60-70 minutes                      140g yields 260g
                                                                                                                                  when cooked

Red lentil                                 Rinse & remove grit             10-15 mins without MC          200g yields 270g
                                                                                                                                  when cooked

Soya bean                               Soak overnight                    60-70 mins.  You may            180g yields 420g
                                                                                       need to add more cooking      when cooked
                                                                                       time to soya beans
                                                                                       depending on the age of
                                                                                       the bean.

Split pea or                             Rinse & remove grit              10 mins. Remove froth &       215g yields 460g
yellow lentil                                                                       cook for an additional            when cooked
                                                                                       15 mins with MC off

                                                            
                                                                                

[fundj&e]

have you been told lately...............

[Burgerb]

Oh awesome! I feel a bit cheeky getting all that info without buying the book! Many, many thanks again. I assume the weight given is the max for each legume/bean that can go in the basket.
Thanks again for all your time!

[judydawn]

Yikes, I just noticed the cooked weights are not showing - will see if I can find them  
All fixed.
Yes, I daresay you are right Burgerb as far as max weights go.
Down the track you may want to buy the Vegetarian book if you are into pulses.  Have you seen this list paperfreak did of the contents of the book and the ingredients in the recipe?  That may may your mind up as to whether you need the book or not.