Have you looked at www.recipecommunity.com.au ?

[Meagan]

So are customers supposed to get newsletters etc from HO?? I've never got one from anyone, lol.

My understanding is you only get the email from head office if you tick the box on the green form stating you would like to get info from Thermomix from time to time or if you supply an email address on your order form.

[thermoheaven]

HO must be in damage control mode today (first working day back from new year) - bet they didn't count on this, but what were they thinking when they lifted recipes without acknowledgement?

Much easier to post recipes here and have everyone pay due credit to the poster. This place is much warmer and nothing beats the independance.

[I Love Bimby!]

I agree with you totally TH!!! I'll be sticking to this forum & my much neglected blog for my recipes 

Besides I don't have enough time to visit this forum as much as I'd like anymore so theres nonway I'd find the time for 2!!

[Bonsai]

I have to agree with everyone else - having read the (very detailed and legal) terms of use for that website, it seems that everything posted becomes their property, and that even passing content on to another person to use could be a cause for legal action against you!

I'm sure many other commercial websites would have similar terms of use, but as others have pointed out, the ability to share recipes and give credit where it is due is a major feature of our forum without running the risk of losing control of what you post!

Think I'll stay here among friends! 

[Tenina]

Hey guys; Calm down and let me explain. I remember having a complete dummy spit on this forum when I first joined because some people were posting my recipes as their own, complete with my diatribe to go with, simply a cut and pasted directly from my personal blog…I was cross to say the least. The lovely recipes that have shown up on the new community are all thanks to recipes that you have sent in to me over the last two years that I have subsequently cooked, photographed (for whatever reason) and then either used on the blog, in a book or in a newsletter. I had no option available to me for posting the authors of said recipes, nor the time to try and contact you all under the dome of silence so that we could get your permission prior to releasing the site…having said all that and at great risk to my sanity….
Can I ask you to identify your own recipes on the community in emails to my work email (not on here as I am sporadic at best on here!!) and I will rectify the authorship quite happily which I can actually do now we are live. As a note, you may have to give me your user name on the community for this to work…havent tried it yet…so be patient with me.

I am finally getting some paid help in the new year and I can tell you that is long overdue. I actually couldnt have done half of what I have done since I started at Thermomix without, in good part, you guys! I look forward to lots more exciting and helpful stuff coming up in the new year for customers and consultants alike. We are only as good as our consultants and the tools they have to work with, so support us and work with us, and it will all come together eventually!

Oh and BTW, the recipe ownership thing with Vorwerk is about the book that the winning recipes will appear in being completely original. It really has nothing more sinister in mind than that. Thermomix will not be claiming recipes as their own or shutting down other peoples projects or blogs or whatever if you publish on the community…should you be a winner…that specific recipe cannot appear in print elsewhere in the future and cannot be in print at the time of entry in the competition.

I wish you all a happy new year and trust we will see each other on the Community throughout 2011….

[Meagan]

Thanks Tenina 

[Cornish Cream]

I've been watching this thread over the past few days and I got my DH to have a look at Tenina's reply about the recipe ownership in the competition.This is his review of the situation.
"This is a common requirement often found in the 'small print' of any type of competition where 'punters' are submitting material, such as photographs (in a photo competition), poems (in a poem competition), or recipes (in a recipe competition). It's purpose is two-fold. Firstly, it prevents the originator of each recipe from subsequently claiming royalties on the future sale of recipe books, published by the organiser of the competition, in which his or her recipe is included. Secondly, it prevents the originator of each recipe from publishing his or her recipe in any other book that might compete with the book published by the organiser of the competition. Effectively, if you submit a recipe, you are automatically transferring copyright of the recipe to the organiser of the competition. Those are their terms. If you wish to retain copyright of your recipe, then don't submit it to the competition."
DH also says "There are two ways of interpreting the motives behind this automatic transfer of copyright condition. The generous interpretation is that it can be seen as merely preventing a lot of hassle in the future when some originators might try to claim royalties on their published material. It would be a nightmare to try and determine the value of each recipe within a book of, say, 100 recipes. In reality the value of each recipe would probably be found to be quite small, even in a book selling thousands of copies, but the cost of trying to determine this value would be large. The less generous interpretation is that a competition is a very low-cost method of gathering a large supply of raw material from which to quickly select the gems and publish a book that might otherwise take a long time and a lot of expensive work to research and develop.
The simple solution is that each successful recipe is fully accredited to its originator in the recipe book . So 'Mrs Nora Brown from Newcastle created this wicked Fudge Cake' (or some such accreditation). Mrs B cannot reproduce the original Fudge Cake recipe in her own book, but she can claim to have been published in the book produced by Vorwerk"
I hope this helps..........or have I just added to the confusion   

[faffa_70]

All our Aussie books have recipe acknowledgements in them

ie recipe contributed by

... Thermomix Groupe leader
... Thermomix Consultant
... Thermomix Customer

I don't recall seeing it in the Vorverk ones so that would probably be the the transfer - save them having to do the acknowledgement 

[achookwoman]

Thanks CC and your DH.  I did some checking with a friend who has published several books.   He gave me the same information.   However I wouldn't have been able to express it as well.   Thanks a million.

[quirkycooking]

Well that all makes sense - thanks Tenina and CC and all... I figured that must be the reasons and it's fair enough.  So If we submit recipes to the community but not to the competition they're still okay to be on our blogs, right?  Just making sure!  (That was my main worry!) 

That's exciting you're getting some help, Tenina - I've been wondering where you fit in the time for the community recipe forum as well as everything else!!!

[judydawn]

CC,  to your DH for explaining things so clearly to us all.  There had to be someone out there who understood all of this and it was so kind of him to share his knowledge with us all.  People can make up their own mind which way they want to go as it is now very clear with your posting and the reply from Tenina. 

Talking about the RC forum, is anyone having trouble with downloading threads on that site?  I know my computer is slow but I have been using DH's which is only relatively new and is so much quicker than mine.  It downloads anything anywhere as quick as a flash except for the recipecommunity forum and I usually get sick of waiting and click off.  I managed to read a couple of threads late last night but some threads just would not come up for me.  Be interested to see if anyone else is having this problem - I don't think I have said anything bad enough for that site to recognise who I am and play the 'go slow' trick on me 

[cookie1]

Thank you Tenina and CC.

[zebraa]

Regardless of anything else, I find it ridiculously hard to navigate -  I couldn't find anywhere for 'new posts' so I doubt if  I will be on there.

[faffa_70]

On the RHS under your profile is a link to latest posts Zebraa, I use that, though still find it very hard to navigate and only give it a brief looking over.

[Frozzie]

this website is identical to the new vowerk french recipe website they launched last sept/oct.. havent been there that much though as i enjoy this forum too much

i think what helps with this forum as well as the adorable members is also the introduce yourself section..makes it more personable and inviting and others know where people are coming from and not just a pseudo..

pity about the rights of recipes etc..doesnt happen as far as i know on the french site although its probabloy written in the rules and regs somewhere..same group same rules i imagine???