Cookie, I love the look of those rolls. I have been experimenting with the SD loaf in the bread machine. I did the water test and used the starter once the starter floated in the cup of water. One knead and took 12 hours at room temperature for dough to double. Loaf ok but going to do a double rise to see if it rises quicker. The machine I am using is a Brevill. I have used a Panasonic previously. I think the Panasonic is better.